i had a white board last night. i should have brought it. there is a $4. trillion in revenue. you cut according to mitt romney's own plan there's a 20% rate reduction from the bush tax cuts. we'll end the estate tax. we're going to cut the corporate tax rate from 35% to 25%. you cannot sit here, mr. speaker, or anybody can't sit here and say, that doesn't require a reduction in the amount of revenue by 4.8 trillion. this is math. >> i'll say it right now. >> moderates, liberals, everybody says here is the problem. you guys won't give him any credit for closing loopholes because like you guys he won't name the loopholes. why? you'll attack him for doing it. >> this is important. >> if there is substance -- you keep bringing up substance. let me hear some obama substance. your substance is to attack romney. that's the whole campaign. where was the president's vision? if he had a couple of sharp ideas, he would have had a better debate. >> the president talked about his health care plan, and mitt romney said my health care plan will do the same thing. >> i do think there's an iss